"Deus Vult!"
AP:
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday that the U.S. military interventions in Iraq and Afghanistan do not assure those countries will become successful democracies. But she said the chance for success is worth the price.Anyone not understand why other nations might want to arm themselves to defend against this madness?
Speaking to a largely conservative audience of more than 12,000 Southern Baptists, Rice said she knows optimism can hard to sustain in the face of daily sectarian carnage and beheadings in Iraq.
She got repeated standing ovations for her call for continued U.S. engagement across the globe.
Rice, the daughter and granddaughter of Presbyterian ministers, was introduced by outgoing Southern Baptist Convention President Bobby Welch as "a woman of faith and not ashamed to testify to that."
She referred often to God and prayer, and cast U.S. work overseas, from Iraq to Sudan to the attempts to stem the trafficking of human beings for forced labor or sex, in religious terms.
As she left the podium, delegates in the upper arena began to sing "God Bless America." The whole arena joined in the spontaneous anthem.
posted by The Cunning Realist at Wednesday, June 14, 2006
11 Comments:
Heaven help us all.
Right on 277fia, the Republicans have given neocolonialism a different twist: Exploit the mother country; doesn't matter in the slightest if what is bought makes it to its putative destination or serves its intended purpose; core constituencies are served with any profits privatized, all liabilities become public.
If you don't believe in the invisible cloudmonster, the terrorists have won!
Actually, when I pose your last question there, to my religious friends and relatives, they have an answer: "But, you see, our religion is the right one, and theirs is wrong, so they should realize that we're doing them a favor."
Anonymous 2 entries up from me: you are quite correct.
In these people's minds, it's quite obvious that their End can justify ANY mean.
I'm an agnostic... I don't see your point.
Exactly what was wrong with what she said... or is it you just don't religion?
She spoke of GOD? She spoke to Baptist? She's Black? Single? Why is this such a terrible thing she's done? I don't get why you think the rest of the world should run and hide?
Robert. I think you may have had difficulty with TCR saying:
"Anyone not understand why other nations might want to arm themselves to defend against this madness?"
This one isn't even reading between the lines. It's right up front. You must have your blinders on when you read it. I'll help you: These are the folks (the SBC) that supported Ann Coulter's comments reguarding going over to the middle east, killing their leaders and forcibly converting their population to Christianity.
Now I supported the Afgan invasion, because we HAD to do it. Iraq was, is and forever will be pure folly & hubris on the part of the bush43 administration. With it, the US threw out all the good will and credit we had from the 9/11 attack. That's what the rest of the world thinks about us.
I'm surprised I have to tell you this stuff! Don't you read newspapers?
It's so Orwellian. Southern Baptists have no minds of their own, it's complete groupthink.
I suggest all the Southern Baptists have all their children enlist and go over to Iraq, and come back with no legs or no arms or worse, dead.
Let's see how many standing ovations Condi Rice gets then.
Many people do expect the USA to be the world's police. Although in 2000 that isn't how Bush campaigned, in fact it was the opposite. It really should be the UN, the world addressing these issues.
Sometimes it isn't the what, but the how.
The real problem are the religious overtones of crusades and axis of evil combined with the bring it on type narcissism. When I was getting Zig Ziglars (a SB, but it didn't matter until they went all radical and political like the Taliban) news letter he came out with one before the election that, change a few words, bin laden could have written.
It was a clear surprise that this fun, nonthreatening, entertaining salesman actually was very radical, with some far, far right ideas. He clearly stated urgency and this is their time. We were told Zig got a lot of outraged responses, and marketing said it was 50/50 response for and against. The SBC is not your ordinary brand of Christian religion.
The country I grew up in is DEAD.
We will stumble on with the delusion that we are still a democracy, like the drunkard who does not believe that he has a problem.
The end is near and the only question remains is how much time have we left? My guess is not much. And the end will be bloody, brutal and unspeakable.
I have most of my live behind me, but I feel really sorry for families with young children as they will inherit hell.
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