Thursday, July 19, 2007

Random Questions

  • Remember those audio clips in Colin Powell's discredited presentation to the UN that purported to show Iraqi officers discussing prohibited weapons? A part that, at this point, seems particularly ludicrous: "Nerve agents. Stop talking about it. They are listening to us. Don't give any evidence that we have these horrible agents." Where did that audiotape come from, and whose voices are on it?

  • Does Richard Perle still have mirrors in his house?

  • Remember Khidhir Hamza, a.k.a. Saddam's bombmaker? Where is he? Laurie Mylroie?

  • Why does the Bush administration keep claiming there have been no terrorist attacks in the U.S. since 9/11? Were the anthrax attacks, which killed five people and disrupted the economy, not what they seemed to be? Who wrote those too-obvious-by-half anthrax notes (viewable here), a ham-handed attempt to imitate the way a native Arabic speaker might write rudimentary English?

  • Who forged the Niger uranium documents?

  • In January 2003, President Bush secretly proposed painting a U.S. reconnaissance plane in the colors of the United Nations, hoping that Saddam would then shoot at it and provide a casus belli. Why hasn't that gotten more attention? Wasn't it a crime?

  • It's clear that the President will borrow a pen from the movers on his last day in office and pardon Libby. Will Congress try in any way to prevent it?

  • How many years ago was the President's last prime time news conference? Will he ever hold another one?


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey CR,

How about a "Trusted Lieutenants" question now that we got yet another top Al Qaeda guy that we just announced even though it happened a couple of weeks ago??

Oh, and I know this is totally in tinfoil hat territory, but the whole anthrax thing is way too stinky for me to eliminate the possibility that it was an inside job somehow.

7/19/2007 2:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...the whole anthrax thing is way too stinky for me to eliminate the possibility that it was an inside job somehow."

Or, more likely, once the Anthrax Terrorist turned out to be a clean-cut white-bread all-American far-Right-Wing true believer, he was quickly & quietly Gitmo'ed for being off-message, lest he distract from the "Brown Muslim People Want to Eat Your Babies and Rape Your Dog" media run-up to Operation Mission Accomplished... -- Anne Laurie

7/19/2007 3:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice job, fight the memory hole.

Someone should start a site to catalogue these sorts of things so people don't forget.

Maybe i'll do it... nah.

7/19/2007 8:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would Richard Perle even need mirrors in his house? I'm not confident that he would cast a reflection.

7/19/2007 9:41 AM  
Blogger Vercules said...

interesting questions. What makes them interesting is that they're being asked. Alot of people are starting to wake up and ask questions.(not implying that you were ever asleep)

The psychological smoke and dust of 9/11 is almost settled and people are starting to ask themselves; "What just happened?"
"What is going on in the world?"
"Tell me again; Why did we invade Iraq".

Otherwise rational people like myself(most of the the time anyway) are even beginning to question who really perpetrated 9/11. I don't know if you're there yet, but if you're questioning the anthrax attacks, well, the logical next step is to question 9/11. I found this idea laughable just six months ago, but I'm actually wondering now. The completely craven nature of this Adminstration forces one to be skeptical of virtually everything they say.

The standard notion is that a conspiracy on that scale would be impossible. I don't have any theories per se, but I think a scenario could be constructed whereby 9/11 is possible with a very small group of participants.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories. That type of thinking is just a manifestion of paranoia.

Of course, questioning 9/11 is akin to heresy in the public's mind.

7/19/2007 11:19 AM  
Blogger Vercules said...

Odd that we haven't found bin Laden, and the Administration have zero interest in doing so.

Remember that song from 1991;
"Things That Make You Go Hmm".

7/19/2007 11:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As has been said, these are excellent questions. Numbers 1, 4, 5 and 6 further suggest to me that the origin of current (and not so current) events are not what we have been lead to believe. Governments have been well known to lie to their people to achieve their aims throughout history. It is the height and depth of exceptionalism to think that our own would not.

I recently re-read TCR's post about Operation Northwoods. It has been demonstrated that our government would consider false flag attacks on our country. Knowing what we know now about the modus operandi of the Bush administration, it does not at all stretch the imagination that they would fabricate evidence and deceive us in other ways to advance their geopolitical strategy. They have repeatedly displayed their contempt for our laws and governmental structure.

Question 6 makes plain that Bush is willing to lie to the entire world to get what he wants. Anyone who thinks these people would hesitate to throw us all to the wolves is living in a fantasy.

7/19/2007 11:39 AM  
Blogger Vercules said...

I wish we could edit these comments. I'm not trying to be a comment hog, but I just want to add one more thing.

Should people really be dismissing Ron Paul so outrightly?
Might a prinipled man like Ron Paul be just what we need right now? Someone not afraid to ask the tough questions?

Think about it.

7/19/2007 11:41 AM  
Blogger Vercules said...

You can fool some of the people all the time; Bush's base
You can fool all the people some of the time; 9/11-present
But you can't fool all the people all of the time; America waking up.

7/19/2007 11:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


I agree that people seem to be gradually realizing that they don't really understand how we got where we are. It is refreshing and encouraging.

There remain many strange details about 9/11 that have been swept under the rug. Why were there multiple military exercises going on that morning which involved hijacked aircraft? Why were fighter jets not scrambled when the plane that hit the Pentagon had been known to be hijacked for almost an hour? Scrambling jets to check out airliners is a routine occurrence. Yet it did not happen that day for four different planes. Norman Mineta testified before the Senate that Dick Cheney was observing the hijacked plane via radar as it was inbound to Washington. Yet it was not intercepted. Is our nation's capitol so undefended? The FBI director has admitted that they do not have sufficient evidence to charge bin Laden with the crime, and that they are not sure as to the identities of the hijackers.

On top of this, think about the hijackers' plan. It should not have worked. If you were planning to fly a plane into the Pentagon, would you not assume you would meet stiff military resistance, especially if they knew you were coming?

Ok, I'll stop. But you say that you don't believe in conspiracy theories. The official story is a conspiracy theory. What proof have you seen that what we have been told is true? It's just a matter of what theory you choose to believe. Like you, I don't know the who, why and how of 9/11. That is why it is so important to ask these questions.

P.S. You're right about Ron Paul. Overall, he is too libertarian for me. But he is the only Republican candidate that makes any sense.

7/19/2007 12:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

America may be waking up (not in my opinion) but there is nothing that they can do or will do.

We are certainly done for.

The world hates us and wouldn't mind us falling
The muslims certainly would like to see us destroyed
Half our population believes blindly in an idiot who doesn't care for them
The other half he certainly doesn't care for
Both halves may destroy each other.

And no God to save us.

7/19/2007 12:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The standard notion is that a conspiracy on that scale would be impossible. I don't have any theories per se, but I think a scenario could be constructed whereby 9/11 is possible with a very small group of participants.

To me, the entire "This Administration was in on it" part of the theory falls apart because it's this Administration. Name one thing they've gotten right.

Couldn't do it, could you? However, I won't be surprised in 20 years or so when historians discover these people *knew* something was going to happen before it did and did nothing to stop it because it was in their best interests to permit the attack.

7/19/2007 12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To me, the entire "This Administration was in on it" part of the theory falls apart because it's this Administration. Name one thing they've gotten right."

This is a good point. I myself do not subscribe to the notion that the entire Admin was in on it. But don't forget that many of these guys have been in and out of government for years; many in the defense and intelligence business. They have high level contacts that stretch back decades (Cheney and Rumsfeld were in the Ford administration for crying out loud!).

The CIA and Dept. of Defense are actually quite good at secrecy. They have done lots of nasty stuff that no one ever found out about, as recent disclosures have shown (CIA Family Jewels, etc.). So it is quite conceivable that a plan could be hatched among particular people in the proper positions to carry it out. If information is properly compartmentalized one can enact a plan who's participants don't know what they are ultimately contributing to. Keep in mind as well that anyone who comes forward with information implicating the government is literally risking their life.

7/19/2007 1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a Ron Paul bumpersticker on my truck already. Yes, we shouldn't dismiss him but give Ron Paul a chance to show his stuff.

7/19/2007 2:16 PM  
Blogger Anderson said...

Myrloie is at AEI and has her own website to keep us up to date on her latest inventions ... er, discoveries. Some laff value, check it out.

7/19/2007 2:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it gives the Bush/Cheney regime a helluva lot of credit to imagine that they could pull off September 11. Besides, it's not like the history of U.S. foreign policy *began* on that day. We've been stirring up lots of hornets nests for years before Bush got coronated.

However -- one of the many unfortunate legacies of the Bush years is that it's no longer so easy to laugh off conspiracy theories. It's certain that all sorts of strange September 11 theories are going to bubble up and become almost plausible. Not a good thing, considering that most public discourse is already neurotic and delusional.
-- sglover

7/19/2007 5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No reason not to believe a group of Sunni Arabs...mainly from Saudi Arabia...a few from Pakistan...a few from Egypt...did this(Zero from Iraq of course). Bin Laden declared war on the US after we left our military there at the end of the first Gulf war. That is what the first world trade center bombing...the cole...etc. was all about. As far as letting it happen...a group of Israeli spies were following the hijackers. It was reported on fox news. Remember...the ones cheering from the van. An old woman called it in and the local cops arrested them. The feds took them and sent them back to Israel. Oh yeah...they knew. Not a doubt about it.

7/19/2007 6:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

False flag ops. "Remember The Maine!"

"This Administration" doesn't have to pull it off. Simply order it. And don't confuse seeming and being. If you want to break the government, put people in key places that won't do anything. They'll seem incompetent.

How about the lastest move: "executive privilege trumps everything". Even the rule of law.

7/20/2007 9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting post Goldhorder. I would agree that a bunch of Sunni Arabs probably did pull it off. But I also believe that the relationship between Osama bin Laden, Al Qaeda and our government is not what it seems. I have no proof, of course, but that is the impression I have from the reading I have done.

It has been reported by Le Figaro that bin Laden met with a CIA agent in Dubai shortly before Sept. 11th. It has also been alleged that the CIA works closely with the Pakistani ISI, and that they went through the ISI to support bin Laden in the '80's against the Soviets. Parts of the Pakistani government, including the ISI, are probably protecting bin Laden to this day. So it is clear to me that bin Laden is not just some rich Saudi plotting in a cave somewhere.

If one considers Osama bin Laden's past and possibly current history with the CIA, his family's membership in the world elite, the involvement of Israeli intelligence (and why were they cheering, anyway?), and the government cover up (confiscating video tapes, denying finding black boxes, etc.) it starts to seem very "down the rabbit hole". I'm sure the full truth would turn out to be something none of us has thought of.

7/20/2007 10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to know where the War Czar is.

I also want to know how some of those in the administration can cross the street without getting. Between being stupid, delusional, or in an alternate universe - they can't be paying attention all that much.

7/20/2007 12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's another.
Is our gov't fighting terrorists or ....

7/20/2007 1:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recall the Administration's insistence that investigations not go forward, and the 9/11 Commission whitewash that inevitably resulted from a broad chorus of demands.

I believe these are still very powerful questions, and that there are answers to many of these questions, and they could surface in a Senate Intelligence Committee investigation of Doug Feith's Office of Special Plans, their communications with ISI during the months leading up to 9/11, communications with and money transfers through foreign agents in contact with the ISI, and intercepted communications of these activities that were translated after 9/11. Sibel Edmonds could provide some very compelling testimony.

I phoned Senator Leahy's office a few weeks ago to express these thoughts, and I was told there is a lot of discussion regarding these very issues. I encourage anyone else to do the same, to demand further investigations and unseal Sibel Edmonds testimony, before we find ourselves in a broader runaway military engagement and under executive decree that will render the Constitutional powers of the Senate, House and Judiciary null and void.

7/20/2007 4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They're "incompetant" only if you are using the normal accepted goals as desirable outcomes for them. Katrina? It's only a fuck up if you think they CARED that a city full of poor black democrats was wiped off the map. I don't think they did care. Do they care that FEMA is a sick joke now? No.

Iraq? Well, we might have gone in aand completely screwed up an entire country, murdered hundreds of thousands of people and nearly broken our military, but on the upside, we have shovelled billions and billions of our tax dollars down the rat-hole. And to whom, I wonder? Cui bono? Now they report that there are more paid mercenaries in Iraq than US military. Hmmm.... that doesn't seem like an accident, does it?

They managed to get Roberts and Alito on the Supreme Court. They managed to completely politicize the Justice Department to the point where it's just become a group of republican thugs issuing political hits on Bush's opponents.

Oh yeah, the list goes on and on and on.

By the way things are going, we'll be completely under totalitarian control by this time next year.

I'd say they've been quite successful, on the whole.
"Incompetance" is merely the disguise they are using to distract us form their successes.

And yeah, 9-11 was definitely an inside job. Think about what it achieved from their perspective, not yours.

7/21/2007 8:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the last post. Bin Laden was once an asset. After the Soviet Union collapsed it all came to an end. Robert Fisk interviewed Bin Laden after that war. He went back to working with the family construction bussiness paving roads in the Sudan. Bin Laden and the Saudi Royal family had a falling out because he wanted to wage war against Iraq like he did the Soviet. He wanted to take in money and arms from the US but under no circumstances allow the US to set foot on American soil. The Royal family choose our way instead. That is how the split formed. It doesn't matter that most of the terrorists come from Saudi Arabia because the royal family is doing our bidding. That is all our politician's care about. As far as Bin Laden being our politician's enemy...are you kidding me? He is the best friend they have. I wouldn't be suprised if we have double agents supplying him with guns and bombs. I am quite certain Bin Laden thinks we are his enemy. I am also quite certain that our politicians consider him their greatest asset.

7/21/2007 5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I meant to say Saudi soil...the holy land he didn't want us on.

7/21/2007 5:23 PM  
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