Bring Out Your Disaffected Hillary Supporters!
No, not that Palin. Though some will say he would have been just as good a choice. More over the weekend, hopefully.
posted by The Cunning Realist at Friday, August 29, 2008
AN OASIS IN A WORLD OF HACKS, HUSTLERS, AND HIRED SPIN
posted by The Cunning Realist at Friday, August 29, 2008
18 Comments:
haha...how cynical of you TCR. You don't think she was picked on her merits?
The subtext is all PUMA.
We shall see. But my guess is that some one so strongly conservative on social issues, who has NO applicable experience to assume the presidency on a moments notice - will not have much, if any attraction to the PUMAs.
More likely, picking her is to energize the conservative base, a female version of Huckaby if you will.
That is this grandma's take on it.
JWC
This pick of Sarah Palin for VP reminds me of Dubya's nomination of Harriet Myers for the Supreme Court. It got the same, "WTF are you thinking that this person is even remotely qualified for the job?!"
Except in this case, McCain can't pick someone else in 2-3 weeks when ever one if questioning his judgment.
The governor of America's number 1 welfare state gets the nod.
Yippee!
How will she defend the fact that Alaskans get more federal dollars per capita than any other state in the union AND that Alaska get's 90% of the revenue from mineral rights on federal land while every other state only gets 50%?
Then again, she may not even be aware of these facts.
McCain screwed up the Senatorial landscape in AK with this pick. If Ted "intertubes" Stevens gets convicted Palin was the logical replacement. Makes you wonder if they are trying to throw this thing.
With a fantasy-based electorate, this might work. I fear McCain has become truly pathological. If he's already this reckless, he'd be worse than Bush.
The GOP is mad.
OMG, Andrew Sullivan is on fire about this. The paucity of Palin's knowledge about foreign affairs is breathtaking. McCain's arrogance and poor judgment is shocking.
Republicans are calling Dems sexist for overlooking her obvious qualitities and how we treat Clinton the same way. That's Chutzpah. I can't imagine how they would be treating Clinton right now if we had picked her.
This pick of Sarah Palin for VP reminds me of Dubya's nomination of Harriet Myers for the Supreme Court. It got the same, "WTF are you thinking that this person is even remotely qualified for the job?!"
Heh. Excellent. Wish I'd thought of the Meirs analogy, which is apt.
I would vote for a ticket with Michael Palin, though. At least and at last there'd be some imagination in the gummint.
-- sglover
You guys are way off base again. She might be the best candidate in the race. As far as I can tell she has no ties to the military industrial complex. She is the only candidate who doesn't. She had some kind words to say about Ron Paul. Maybe she isn't even a warmongerer like Obmama, McCain, and Biden.
Goldhorder:
She's a far right wingnut. She's a Dominionist(meaning a part of Joel's Army(meaning Joel Osteen I believe). Hell, she supported Pat Buchanan in 2000. She also hates polar bears and clean drinking water(I am not kidding!!).
Q: Why did John McCain choose Sarah Palin?
A: Katie Holmes wasn't available.
She is outside the political mainstream. Therefore she deserves the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. I have no respect for Obama, Biden, or McCain. I don't know who Palin is. I absolutely love Pat Buchanan so you are earning no points from me here. What do you find so offensive about Pat Buchanan? He opposed the Iraq war from the start(actually before the start) and is the only mainstream media figure to continually offer such a scathing criticism of it. Buchanan has his opinion columns regularly posted at antiwar.com. He is far more knowledgable about the consequences of empire and how past empires have fallen than any liberal I know. As an example...
http://antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=13338
http://antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=13323
http://antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=11139
http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan16.html
http://www.lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan2.html
http://www.theamericancause.org/patimperialwarsthennow.htm
before the war even started
http://www.theamericancause.org/pathowapresidents.htm
http://www.theamericancause.org/patwhydoesislam.htm
Can you name one liberal who has so eloquently defended our former Republic? Most are mindless shills for the democrats or are comedians. I like the comedians put they are a bit light on facts and history. Maybe Bill Moyers but he really didn't start coming out against the war until it became a mess. Pat was way ahead of everybody else and was against the war when all you blockheads had Bush's approval ratings in the 90s. I remember so well because I was part of the 10. It was a lonely time back then. I'll always have the utmost respect for Barabara Lee...even though she has made some bad votes since...that lone one vote was pure courage... I would like a candidate who does not take great enthusiasm in dropping bombs on poor brown skinned people and is not tied to the Israeli lobby and has no ties to our military industrial complex. This is what is wrong with this country. We define "foreign policy" experience as being a shill for Israel and the defense industry. I would take a drunken bum off the streets of Manhattan before I would let Biden run my foreign policy. It would be far less of a disaster that way.
goldhorder --
You make good points about Buchanan, but to me he'll always be one of Nixon's original, and meanest, dirty tricksters. However, I'll grant you that "The American Conservative" is just about the only really interesting political mag in America right now -- and I'm pretty far left.
Maybe Palin has the advantages you mention (or more precisely, the relative lack of liabilities), but I gotta say, simply being a self-identifying Republican, now, after the reign of the Idiot Prince -- that's pretty much all I need to conclude that she's fucked in the head. Christ, during her acceptance speech she was crowing about one of her sons enlisting in the army. That's more tangible "patriotism" than any of our Beltway Caesars demonstrate, true. But it doesn't exactly square with the anti-imperialist portrait that you're trying to paint.
What I'd really like to see is a ticket with a pair of scientists or engineers (and by "scientist" I do NOT mean anyone practicing a pseudo-science like economics). It's no coincidence that the most prescient speech given by any American President in my lifetime -- Carter's incessantly derided "malaise" speech -- came from an engineer. Thirty years on, things have developed pretty much exactly as he warned. His only real mistake was believing that American voters wanted to be treated like sentient adults. Reagan, the "Great Communicator", never made **that** mistake.
-- sglover
Note to PUMAs. Republicans hate Hillary Clinton. Do your research!
hahaha...I totally agree with you sglover. I like Carter more and more every year. I never even hated him. But I'm an engineer myself. LOL. I've never totally embraced Pat. He did after all wind up endorsing both Bush times. I've read his latest books and have always admired his knowledge and understanding of history. His latest posts about Russia and Georgia have sealed it for me. From here on out I will never say a bad word about Pat Buchanan again. Once again he is way out front about what a new conflict with Russia will mean for the US. For the lone fact that he is the only one in the main stream media sounding alarm bells...he will have my graditude and respect forever. No matter what he did in the past. He is no longer a politician but a statesman now. Keep that in mind.
Nice! Nice! Nice!
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