Sunday, September 09, 2007

Ripping The "Wanted" Poster Off The Wall....

Past words are fair game -- particularly if the opiner has a less than stellar record on Iraq, holds himself out as worth listening to on Iran, and has a habit of citing anonymous "trusted" sources:

Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan almost six months ago: the fugitive died in December and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan.

Amir Taheri 7/11/02

And, according to Iranians I trust, Osama bin Laden finally departed this world in mid-December. The al Qaeda leader died of kidney failure and was buried in Iran, where he had spent most of his time since the destruction of al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

Michael Ledeen 1/9/06

As mentioned, there's an Osama cameo floating around. It seems to be from a video shot in 2001 or 2002. If that is correct, then I would draw two conclusions: first, that it is additional confirmation that he is dead. (If he were alive, they could do a new one, right?)

Michael Ledeen 7/15/07

Yet even as his story triggers more and more questions, (Curt) Weldon is making explosive new allegations. He says a high-level source has told him that terrorist leader Osama bin Laden has died in Iran, where he has been in hiding.

The Philadephia Inquirer 3/15/06

"I think now, frankly, he is dead for the reason he is a kidney patient."

Pervez Musharraf 1/18/02

An Australian terrorism expert says he has been given evidence, which could show Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is either seriously ill or dead. Professor Clive Williams from Macquarie University says he has been provided with evidence, by an Indian colleague, to support the theory that bin Laden died of massive organ failure in April last year.

ABC News 1/16/06

"Is he alive or is he dead? I am not really sure of the answer. I personally think he is probably not with us anymore but I have no evidence to support that."

Dale Watson, FBI counterterrorism head, 7/17/02

The recording was dismissed by the Bush administration yesterday as sick propaganda possibly designed to mask the fact the al-Qa'eda leader was already dead.

The Telegraph 12/27/01

"Osama bin Laden is dead in my opinion, and probably has been dead for more than a year."

Christopher Hitchens 12/10/03

Personally, I think this is evidence that Osama is dead, and that the CIA is supplying these tapes for purposes of its own.

Glenn Reynolds 2/11/03

So I'm ripping the "Wanted" poster off the wall. Don't call the gravediggers. Disposing of Osama bin Laden's earthly remains is a job for starving sharks, if remains exist. Most likely he's dust among bomb fragments.

Austin Bay 9/12/02

Maybe bin Laden will never turn up. There has been no confirmed new video of him since December 26, 2001, leading many including me to believe he is dead.

James Robbins 10/18/04

"I heard today that he may have died in the earthquake that they had in Pakistan, seriously. I'm not sure he is alive anymore. I think perhaps the earthquake took him down."

Sen. Harry Reid 11/25/05


Blogger automax4 said...

And don't forget: "You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I don't know where he [bin Laden] is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. "

- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

9/09/2007 8:46 AM  
Blogger nolocontendere said...

12/26/2001 - on Faux no less - Report: Bin Laden Already Dead. THEY sure have a short memory, don't they?

9/09/2007 11:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From today:
This is about the best he can do," Townsend said of bin Laden. "This is a man on a run, from a cave, who's virtually impotent other than these tapes."

In appearance on two Sunday talk shows, she used the "virtually impotent" reference both times, suggesting the language was chosen with careful purpose.

"We know that al-Qaida is still determined to attack, and we take it seriously," Townsend said. "But this tape appears to be nothing more than threats. It's propaganda on their part."

Its hard to keep up these days. Last week he was on the verge of taking over the whole of Iraq, this week he's in a cave (how does she know that?) and virtually impotent.
This week is surge week so that talking point will become inoperative by tonight.

9/09/2007 7:54 PM  
Anonymous Kilfarsnar said...

It is hard to keep up isn't it? This is one more example of the dissonance coming from the government and the media. Al Qaeda is the most dangerous terrorist organization in the world, bent on nothing less than a global caliphate. But its purported leader is a probably dead, surely impotent loser hiding in a cave. But we must unleash the full power of our intelligence and war machines against them because this is the existential threat of our times. But Americans shouldn't have to sacrifice beyond seeing ugly images on their teevee screens. They shouldn't disrupt their daily lives, and they certainly should not have to pay more in taxes.

Now, with a situation so clear cut, how can you not support this wholeheartedly?

9/10/2007 9:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now, how could you demand real information when we have a White House that is only capable of spin, lies and propaganda.

They have gotten away with that for 7 years and have a loyal gop cadre in congress that is only good for taking and following orders and not questioning anything of their leader.

So why should Bush change his method of "governing"?

9/10/2007 10:35 AM  
Blogger Eugene said...

New Osama video seems yet another forgery. Everyone needs Osama alive:
terrorists as symbolic leader and the US Administration - to avoid
scaling down the war on terror.
Obadiah Shoher rightly notes ( ) that
new Osama talks like a leftist university professor. I like Shoher's
analysis. No way a terrorist leader like Osama would use a speechwriter. Osama is famous
for his rhetoric.
Also, in the tape Osama both threatens America with attack (by
"proving" Americans polytheists) and offers (yet another time)
long-term coaching in Islam.
But his dyed beard makes me cautious. Islam's mujahedeen dye their
beards before battle.

9/10/2007 10:53 AM  
Blogger The Mechanical Eye said...

"Hyman Roth has been dying from the same heart attack for the last twenty years." -- Godfather, Part II


9/10/2007 4:39 PM  
Blogger Grace Nearing said...

If nothing else, this quote compilation proves that unless they have solid evidence (autopsy photos would be nice, as welll as DNA samples), pundits and officials should avoid speculation and just shut up.

Besides, it is widely known in the Muslim community that OBL is the crank who goes around inspecting the taxi driver accommodations of every mid-Western airport and insisting that prayer rooms and foot baths be installed.

9/12/2007 2:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The video is fake; the video (but not the audio) freezes for a good bit of the video's duration and everything in it where he mentions current events is in the frozen part.;sid=2007/9/9/61032/95401
It's fake. So was the 2004 video and the "confession" video which doesn't even look like him.

Makes you wonder what bin Laden and the CIA chief of station talked about when they met in July 2001 in the U.A.E. where bin Laden was undergoing kidney dialysis.,1361,584444,00.html
Most likely it was to see if he would accept "credit" for the upcoming 9/11 false flag attack which, judging by his at least four explicit denials of having anything to do with 9/11, he appears to have smartly refused.,1300,553156,00.html The reason why they will never catch him is because he was and IS a C.I.A. asset, code name 'Tim Osman':

Why do you think he was allowed to "escape" from their encirclement in 2001?
Ummmmmm.... Because if he was caught then 1.the U.S. would put him on trial and in the trial he would reveal his ongoing CIA connections and prove that he had nothing to do with 9/11; and 2.most Americans would have looked at his being caught as the end of the phony "war on terror" (thinly-disguised war for control over as much of the world's remaining oil and natural gas resources as possible) and their whole 9/11 false flag operation wouldn't be the useful pretext that it has been, the "war on terror" would be over which is 180 degrees away from what the planners of the "war" really want.

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