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One of the most head-smackingly stupid things I've ever seen ends appropriately. Part of a new ethos of accountability? If it had happened during the last administration, the entire episode would have been marked classified and he would have been promoted.
posted by The Cunning Realist at Saturday, May 09, 2009
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I just read the report and the Director was clearly a fall guy. He was barely informed of the event, much less required to approve it. The bigger issue seems to be a breakdown in communication between departments, especially with the FAA who was charged (or people thought they were charged) with notifying the public.
The Deputy Director was in it up to his knees. He's lucky he didn't get the boot as well.
New ethos of accountability? Of course... for all things unimportant. Accountability where it really matters (stress tests, FED transparency, bailouts) has zero interest to Obama.
The fact that the stress test is being heralded as a success is proof positive that this administration, like all those before it, have no interest in real accountability.
Co-sign Inthon.
This was a bullshit issue.
Inthon & am4 obviously were not on the ground in Manhattan or DC on 9/11/2001. To say this wasn't "important" is quite astonishing!
Now, in the range of issues this Admin has inherited and is fielding, there are many that invite criticism. None though that I would call criminal which is what I called the last administration for 8 vey long years.
So, on balance ... you folks, not on the ground, need to check your own values before you flap your lips (or keyboard ... whichever is anatomically correct); people who were directly affected might just find you both offensive not to mention insensitive.
Lol... That post was so bad i'm starting to question your intelligence tcr. The only positive I've seen so far is that he doesn't seem to ask Israel for permission before he talks about the middle east. That is a good thing if we are going to keep the empire going another 20 years tops. Lol. The previous administration insisted on disregarding the billion Muslims opinion on our domination of the middle east in favor of the concerns of a few million jews propped up with billions of aid and the best military equipment from the US. Omg...Obama must have some smarts...but with him doubling down in afghanistan and extending our war into Pakistan...he is looking more and more LBJish every day.
Judyo...they are saying it wasn't important because the public was in no danger. They might have been scared but it was all just a stupid photo op...compared to the fleecing of this nation by the wall street bankers this was nothing. Notice...the stock market is going up...and we are loosing 500k jobs every month. Lol. Isn't the printing press grand when you have an ivy league education? Not only did they get bailed out but all the free loot is sending the stock market up. Unless you are an investment banker you should be buying gold for your retirement. Anything else is upkeep for Paulson's spread in the Hamptons. Lmao
Yeah, if this is supposed to represent accountability, it's a pretty paltry example.
To begin with, I don't see what's so horrible about flying AF-1 over some scenic urban terrain. It's a waste of fuel, sure, but the AF wastes fuel every day (a full 25% of all the fuel used by the whole federal government). But here's the main thing: This episode was seen by a lot of people, and photographed. Which makes it just another media shitstorm, as far as I can tell. Ephemeral, superficial, essentially trivial.
When we start seeing, say, Bush & Cheney facing war crimes trials, or an investigation of Chuck "Wall Street" Schumer's payoffs, or Jane "AIPAC" Harman in the dock for selling out her country, or Bob "Loot Big!" Nardelli bankrupted by shareholders -- then we can talk about the U.S. as something other than a banana republic.
-- sglover
Judyo--Sorry to knock you off your high horse, but I WAS on the ground in Manhattan on 9/11/2001, one block south of 2WTC. I was in my office as both towers fell. They shook the neighborhood, blocking out the light. Most of the outrage I've heard over this flyby is from self-dramatizing people who were nowhere near downtown when the plane flew by and didn't hear about the incident until hours or days later. For most, complaining is an opportunity for them to appear oh so sensitive and imagine that they've been "terrorized," too. Bullshit on that. And bullshit on Obama. Poorly manage an incident that allows a bunch of drama queens to pretend they've been "terrorized" and you lose your job. Actually terrorize people through real TORTURE and Obama says "that happened in the past we need to move forward" AKA fuhgeddaboudit! Tell me judyo, do you get your silk knickers in a twist over real crimes like torture, the failure to prosecute torturers and massive kleptocracy? Didn't think so. I guess those aren't "criminal." Just keep feeling whatever CNN tells you to feel.
Accountability...that's a pretty big step. The nice think about Obama is that he is authentic, and everything about this screamed propaganda and fake. We don't need anymore of that.
It would have been better had it not occurred at all. How out of touch does one have to be to think this was a "good" thing to do. They didn't think about the economy (the cost and waste), the environment, or 9/11 and the people.
And photoshop would have been so much quicker, easier, and less expensive.
am4. Yes
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I never watch CNN.
I'm a mother
My daughter was there; she wasn't as "strong" as you appear to be.
I was there on 9/11 and witnessed the whole thing live and up close. I'm glad i missed this idiotic photo-op. It truly was beyond stupid. i'm also glad the guy who was in charge of the program got "asked" to quit.
It's a start.
Regarding accountability, this might be interesting. From the Sunlight Foundation, Apps for America, the winner was: Filibusted: “Hold senators accountable for blocking legislation.”
I wonder if they'll include stuff the Senate and House leadership doesn't even allow to go to the floor for a vote. Tom Delay and Dennis Hastert were very good at that.
I agree this is a BS issue. I was in the Pentagon on 9/11 in case that makes a difference to anyone. Since then, there has been similar fly bys in DC for AF photo ops ove the capital area. The only difference was that it was well publicized in the local media and everyone was warned in advance that three aircraft were to be flying over DC taking pictures. No panic ensued. The stupidity of this episode stemmed from the fact they wanted to keep the flight a secret to the public and specifically told those in the know not to let the public in on the "secret."
The cost quoted doesn't include the "lost productivity" of all the people who flocked from their office towers to escape another possible attack! I think this should be kept in mind when looks at the real cost involved.
ALOHA!!
This is why they invented PHOTOSHOP!
OBAMA is spending $40BIL per day since taking office and he cannot afford PHOTOSHOP?
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