Profoundly Non-Serious
From Ryan Lizza via Andrew Sullivan:
On its face, this seems incredible. Question for all the lawyers out there: how common or how bizarre is it for an attorney inadvertently to allow his/her ability to practice law lapse? And for the most senior legal counsel to the president of the United States?
If I was Warren Buffett's personal stockbroker, I am fairly certain that maintaining my professional securities license would be a priority. Color me old-fashioned, I guess.
DUE DILIGENCE: You can't make this stuff up. The counsel to the president of the United States wasn't licensed to practice law in D.C.:Another manifestation of the "kids rolling around on the lawn." Iraq, Katrina, government spending---none of this is happening in a vacuum, folks.
"Earlier this year, I received notice that my dues for the District of Columbia Bar were delinquent and as a result my ability to practice law in D.C. had been suspended. I immediately sent the dues in to remedy the delinquency. The nonpayment was not intentioned, and I corrected the situation upon receiving the letter."
I guess we can knock "detail-oriented" off her ever-shrinking list of qualifications.
On its face, this seems incredible. Question for all the lawyers out there: how common or how bizarre is it for an attorney inadvertently to allow his/her ability to practice law lapse? And for the most senior legal counsel to the president of the United States?
If I was Warren Buffett's personal stockbroker, I am fairly certain that maintaining my professional securities license would be a priority. Color me old-fashioned, I guess.
posted by The Cunning Realist at Tuesday, October 18, 2005
34 Comments:
Let's not overlook that she was the head of the Texas Bar at one point and should be, above all others, conscious and proactive about licensure. It is the Bar that protects the profession, in part by ensuring that minimum standards are met.
I'd like to tell you that it's an outrageous out-of-the-ordinary thing, but it's not. In a firm like the one Miers came from, there would be an administrator in charge of handling this stuff (I used to practice in such a firm). The lawyers never think about it. Something comes across your desk once a year, and if you don't sign it quickly enough, the administrator finds you, holds the form in front of you, and gets your signature. You get used to the baby-sitting and when you leave that environment, you forget. Similar thing happened to me once. It's easily correctable and holds no real consequences.
We know she is a suck-up to W.
We know this is an appointment of a crony.
We now know she does not pay attention to being on time. Another example is the belated birthday card she sent W.
This from someone they tout as being "detail oriented".
For the sake of the nation she should withdraw.
For the sake of the nation the Democrats should drop support.
Dems should stop double-thinking this that the next nominee will be worse. She is a Crony of bad people.
What could be worse than a vote on the SCOTUS that is a telephone call away from W-Cheney-Rove et al?
My wife is an attorney. The folks at her firm who drop balls like this are NOT the top quality folks.
I agree about the Dems. They should stand on principle - she's unqualified, a crony AND quite likely to overturn Roe - and not worry about who might replace her. With the growing disaster in the WH it's highly questionable whether they could get a radical nominee through now anyway. Indeed, that was most likely part of their thinking in nominating Miers in the first place.
The Bush presidency is, for all practical purposes, in its death throes. I shudder to think of what they might do in arenas for which there is no effective check or balance, such as Iraq, Iran, etc., but it's hard to imagine them getting their way in Congress anymore.
What is with the dems? Do they wait around for the reps to tell them what to think? No wonder the reps are sloppy.
I'm not an attorney but a veterinarian and my wife is a physician. We both have periodic licensure renewal requirements and I can assure you that neither of us would ever allow them to lapse. The same goes for our DEA certificates that allow us to prescribe controlled drugs.
As for the comments on the Dems: There is no point in the Dems going all out negative before the hearings even begin. Much wiser to allow the Conservatives to continue to try to blow the nomination up and then line up behind them to sink the nomination once it's clear that Disenchanted Republicans + Democrats = Clear Majority.
OK, maybe she's a little sloppy, a tad sub-par intellectually, and her religious affiliation has been offered as a qualification for the bench, but forget all that stuff. I want to see her get in and torpedo Roe. You know why? Because it's a horrible, divisive decision? Nope. It is bad, but no. Because of all the Baby Killers that would be stopped? nope. No, I want to see Roe go down so I can watch the spectacle of Republicans trying to resucitate it. Roe is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Republican Party! Where would they be without it? It is a truly spectacular tool for energizing the base. If Roe goes down, the GOP might go down, but I don't think abortion rates would. The states would act, and it would be legal in all the states where it's pretty easy to get now. It would be illegal in all the states where it's already next to impossible to find it. Not that much would change.
I'm not a lawyer, but maintaining your professional license goes without saying! I'm an RN and haven't practiced in 2 years but I make sure I pay my dues and keep my license up to date.
Not long ago I was sitting in on a law and motion hearing and heard a judge joke that the explanation of the formula for the volume of a cylinder was not something his court could take judicial notice of. Why, he said, did the arguing lawyer suppose his honor had gone to law school if not to avoid all that math and science stuff? The sad truth is that many in the legal profession nowadays are privileged ne'er do wells, whose intellectual capacity is less than foremost. Perhaps Harriet, as an epitome of her profession, will fit right in.
...but to answer the question, persons admitted to practice in multiple jurisdictions are known to let admissions lapse for any number of reasons: It costs $$ to renew; you have to attend continuing education courses applicable to every jurisdiction in which you are admitted to practice; you might not actually practice law in that jurisdiction, etc.
Basically, this doesn't mean much to me. It's just another jellybean in the jar of NO.
My girlfriend works for a nation wide law firm and while it is uncommon it is not an unforgivable offense. I too think she would overturn Roe (although I still dont think Roberts would). She is unqualified and the Presidents personal attorney for the last decade should not be permitted to sit on the court unless she relieves herself in cases involving the Bush administration.
"The nonpayment was not intentioned..."
and I guess we can knock English off her ever-shrinking list of qualifications.
This stuff happens in law practice. As someone said earlier, there's usually someone assigned to administer these payments for all the lawyers in an organization because it's something the organization typically pays for.
gee, all of my medical licensures i have to deal with, noone keeps track of my CEUs or my work hours but me. my affiliation dues are all up to me too,.. but then, i'm a lowly RT and EMT-I (from back in the old days, but it's something ya just don't drop) and i guess that's the way it is. my employers only ask for the new copies of the licensures and certs each year. i pay my own way and so does everyone else.
the train wreck this scotus appt is, goes way beyond this little mess.
Most state bars send out reminder notices for your bar payments. I don't buy the "the administrator does it for me" excuse. First and foremost, you as an attorney are responsible for making sure that you are meeting your licensing requirements (whether that's paying dues or continuing legal education, etc.) For someone who knows everyone's birthdate, it does seem bizarre.
Absolutely. My company makes goshdarn sure we renew our licenses, and won't stop pestering us until we send them copies of the new ones. That's because the embarassment of having one of their employees being found to be unlicensed would be severe.
Avoiding embarassment is not exactly a priority for this Administration.
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