"Apparently Deliberate Targeting"
AP:
Undoubtedly, this will spur talk of "mistakes" Israel has made in the past when observers were present during a conflict. For those who still believe what happened to the USS Liberty was an accident, read the chapter on it in James Bamford's Body of Secrets for starters.
Let's see what other details we get in the next few days.
Update: Yes, Debka is what it is, but here's its report on the incident:
More from Reuters:
An Israeli bomb destroyed a U.N. observer post on the border in southern Lebanon, killing two peacekeepers and leaving two others feared dead in what appeared to be a deliberate strike, U.N. chief Kofi Annan said.So let me get this straight. Just as the U.N. gets increasingly vocal about the humanitarian crisis in Lebanon and debate starts about inserting a multinational peacekeeping force, Israel accidentally destroys a U.N. observation post?
The bomb made a direct hit on the building and shelter of the observer post in the town of Khiyam near the eastern end of the border with Israel, said Milos Struger, spokesman for the U.N. peacekeeping force in Lebanon known as UNIFIL.
Rescue workers were trying to clear the rubble, but Israeli firing "continued even during the rescue operation," Struger said.
"I am shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting by Israeli Defence Forces of a U.N. Observer post in southern Lebanon," Annan said in the statement.
Annan said in his statement that the post had been there for a long time and was marked clearly, and was hit despite assurances from Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that U.N. positions would not be attacked.
"I call on the government of Israel to conduct a full investigation into this very disturbing incident and demand that any further attack on U.N. positions and personnel must stop," Annan said in the statement.
Undoubtedly, this will spur talk of "mistakes" Israel has made in the past when observers were present during a conflict. For those who still believe what happened to the USS Liberty was an accident, read the chapter on it in James Bamford's Body of Secrets for starters.
Let's see what other details we get in the next few days.
Update: Yes, Debka is what it is, but here's its report on the incident:
The holier-than-thou tone of outrage taken by Annan is surprising when it generally known that many UN missions are exploited as the cover for foreign agents, often hostile, to carry out spying operations in war zones. The inadvertent Israeli air strike revealed the fact that the UN force in Lebanon includes Chinese observers. One was killed along with an Austrian, a Canadian and a Finn. The presence of Chinese observers keeping an eye on the combat in South Lebanon has never before been reported.
Our intelligence experts compare the incident to the inadvertent US bombardment which wrecked the Chinese embassy in Belgrade in 1998 (picture), killing a number of Chinese “diplomats.” It was discovered that from that building the Chinese had operated sophisticated surveillance to track the performance of American warplanes, missiles and smart bombs.
More from Reuters:
An Irish army officer in south Lebanon warned Israel six times that air strikes threatened the lives of U.N. observers there before four staff were killed in a direct hit, Ireland's Foreign Ministry said on Wednesday.
"On six separate occasions he was in contact with the Israelis to warn them that their bombardment was endangering the lives of U.N. staff in South Lebanon," a Department of Foreign Affairs spokesman said.
"He warned: 'You have to address this problem or lives may be lost'," the spokesman said of comments by Lieutenant Colonel John Molloy, the chief liaison officer between U.N. forces in South Lebanon and the Israelis.
The remarks came after Foreign Minister Dermot Ahern summoned Israel's ambassador to his office to "protest at the strongest possible level". Speaking to reporters after the meeting, Ahern cast doubt on assurances the deaths had been an accident.
"Evidence that we have would suggest that this was either an incredible accident or else was in some way directly targeted," Ahern told reporters following the meeting.
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Remember all the people asking "why do they hate us?" after 9/11? I wonder if they are still wondering.
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I think the state of Israel sent the UN a clear message that was paid for the citizens of the United States of America.
You must be an anti-semite to dare say such things about Israel.
At this juncture the loss of innocent lives is well over the the 2 they are fighting for.
Just because Kofi Annan claims it was deliberate targeting, doesn't necessarily make it so. Of course he could be right, but how could he possibly know such a thing this quickly.
TCR, I'm wondering what reaction you have to the argument made here:
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2006/07/knife-thrower-at-carnival.html
Wretchard makes some interesting points, I think.
Of course it could be a mistake. Just part of the 'fog of war'.
But I wonder if the Israelis were trying to 1) send a message to other nations that might be willing to send peacekeepers, and/or 2) making sure that the UN observers are not present to observe over the coming days.
The quotes on the front page of the Liberty website are worth reading as well.
Note to Debka - if the criteria for justifying the bombing of the Chinese embassy was that intelligence was being conducted from there, then every US embassy is fair game.
It's a bit of a stretch to try and connect the Liberty attack and today's bombing of a UN outpost. The incidents are several decades apart. While the Liberty attack wasn't a simple mistake, it's too soon to say if today's attack was deliberate or accidental.
But since the UN has passed numerous resolutions over the years condemning Israel, I wouldn't rule it out.
The Israelis trump their ability of pinpoint bombing capability.
'We know what we are hitting. We only go after the Hezballah.'
Now after having bombed the UN obervers they suddently made a mistake?
They did not know after 20 years that these buildings were UN.
And their investigation, why bother, they can make up their reports without it because they will be lying just like the Pentagon lies when they investigate US actions in Iraq that shows war crimes.
Besides we believe anything the Israelis tell whether it is the truth or a fairytale.
Again, Billmon has some terrific posts on this.
http://billmon.org
The ambulance with a missle hole through the red cross is another accident, one supposes.
As for the intelligence gathering at the Chinese embassy and by the UN observation team, which is it? A total accident, or on purpose because they had it coming? Let's at least get the stories straight.
And I think the reference to the Liberty is absolutely apt. Israel has used its "right to self defense" to do whatever the hell it has wanted to do for decades. And NO MATTER WHAT, there are legions of apologists who will explain it away, even when Americans are on the receiving end of Israeli excesses.
I have a tremendous amount of sympathy for the position Israel has been in since its inception after WWII, but the US's knee-jerk unconditional support of every goddam thing they do is incredibly wrong-headed and dangerous. No other ally gets the free pass Israel does, and no ally ever should.
Israel doesn't like anyone spying/getting in the way of their operations.
OTOH, they have no problem spying on us, their chief benefactors, and then selling our secrets to the Chinese.
With friends like these....
To be fair to Israel, it still could be unbelievable military stupidity. Once is happenstance; twice is coincidence; 3 times is enemy action.
In any case, their excuses in both cases are pretty weak. 9 hours of inspection during daylight in the Med and 6 phone-calls warning of off-target attacks. It really is asking a lot to take excuses about this without at least a little evidence. (I don't think anyone was court-martialed and/or cashiered the first time; let's see what happens this time.)
pmm
Has anyone else noted the irony?
The modern State of Israel was born in the United Nations.
I second 277fia. Our tax dollars should not be funding these atrocities.
Bolton worked closely with Senator Jesse Helms. In early 2001 Helms told a gathering at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI): “John Bolton is the kind of man with whom I would want to stand at Armageddon, if it should be my lot to be on hand for what is forecast to be the final battle between good and evil in the world.”
Hezbollah and UN posts are in some cases literally inches from each other.
See here:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110008672
and for an acutal picture of such a post, see here:
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/2006/07/knife-thrower-at-carnival-2.html
Now tell me how ANY weapon, even a precision weapon, could avoid hitting both such places?
Irish Foreign Ministry: Irish Officer Warned Israel on Threat to UN staff six times yesterday. Also, a reader sends this, from the State Department August 26, 2003, "The U.N. Security Council August 26 unanimously adopted a resolution [1502] declaring attacks on humanitarian workers war crimes and urging nations to prosecute perpetrators of such attacks."
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