Friday, October 13, 2006

Ingrates

I am amazed that this is a society which so wants to be free that they're willing to -- that there's a level of violence that they tolerate.

President Bush on Iraqis 10/11/06


Another Marine, his face flushed with anger, approached an interpreter on the base and said: "I just want to know why my friends are being hurt. Don't the Iraqis know we are here to help them build something new and better now that Saddam is gone?

Washington Post 4/14/04


Q: What is the biggest lesson you have learned from the Iraq war?

A: The ingratitude of the Iraqis for the extraordinary favor we gave them -- to release them from the bondage of Saddam Hussein's tyranny.


Interview with Daniel Pipes, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review 4/1/06


Too often the colonists were regarded as unruly and ungrateful children, with whom compromise was either a sign of weakness or the betrayal of the principle of parliamentary sovereignty. Highmindedness contributed to the final humiliation, as did ignorant overconfidence. Military defeat, to a country that had become preeminent in Europe by the end of the Seven Years War, was not entertained as a possibility.

From a review of Peter Whiteley's Lord North: The Prime Minister Who Lost America


What have they done? Have they crossed the ocean and invaded us? On the contrary, this is what we have done to them. And yet it is we who imagine ourselves ill used.

Dr. Richard Price, Great Britain, 1776


Don't these people ever give up?

Col. Kilgore, Apocalypse Now

19 Comments:

Blogger Spider said...

Thank you for the history lesson, TCR. There's an old saying. Those who do not learn from history, are . . .are. . .well, they just don't learn from it.

I, among others with greater credentials than just being am musician, predicted the insurgency as soon as the war started to my friends. I know there were those that made that prediction public. (A particular journalist comes to mind who predicted the insurgency the day after the war started. I'll try to find the link and post it later.)

I knew there was going to be an insurgency because there was on the last time an foreign country came in and occupied the area known as Iraq. That country was England during the early part of the 20th century. All one needed to do was study their history to see that it was going to happen again when we invaded and occupied.

10/13/2006 10:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Brad DeLong keeps quoting

Kurtz: Are my methods unsound?
Willard: I don't see any method at all, sir.

10/13/2006 10:39 AM  
Anonymous Mike said...

Yet KIlgore also said, This war's gonna end some day.

Haven't heard anyone say that about Iraq.

10/13/2006 11:40 AM  
Blogger David Studhalter said...

As good a collection of illustrative quotations as you could ask for.

10/13/2006 3:18 PM  
Blogger Dualarity said...

Brilliantly done.

Pipes is a sinister, creepy character, to an almost Strangelovian degree.

10/13/2006 3:37 PM  
Blogger Anderson said...

Well, what can you expect from mere savages, "lesser breeds without the law"?

We should occupy them for however long it takes "Thank you, President Bush" to become the standard greeting, sorta like "Heil Hitler" used to be.

[/snark]

10/13/2006 5:42 PM  
Anonymous Mr. Hedley Bowes said...

Great thread.

At some point in the not-too-distant future (perhaps after the November polls 'close' and the [dis]counting begins) we may find that the contextual references from current events to cultural media such as 'Apocalypse Now' and 'Dr. Strangelove: How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb' will begin to yield to more extreme 'norms' like those depicted in 'Brazil' and 'Salo.'

So, yes, "Thank you, President Bush" could become the compulsory National Prayer.

10/14/2006 3:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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10/15/2006 10:21 AM  
Blogger DED said...

Interesting comparison, though there's a major difference: the occupying English army didn't liberate us from an oppressor. Instead, it was there to enforce the will of our oppressor.

Now, you can argue that our military is oppressing the Iraqi people (I think that it's the exception, not the rule), but it certainly didn't start out that way. While W's motives for "liberating" the Iraqi's changes every few months, it doesn't change the fact that we removed the oppressor of the Iraqi people. Sadly, what's happened since, doesn't appear to be any better (just different) than under the rule of Saddam. And we've certainly stayed there far too long.

Bring the troops home.

10/16/2006 11:19 AM  
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C'mon Henry, tell us what he has to do and have some luck with ....... some people say one word from you is worth a hundred from ten think tanks..

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