Monday, October 02, 2006

October 2nd, 6pm, Upper West Side

Anyone know about this? Is it bogus, or the logical extension of my organic (and expensive) veggies, yogurt, and milk?


Blogger Spider said...

Hi TCR, just wanted to say that while I don't do much dry cleaning I have seen that particular sign. (I'm just over the river in Queens and was on the Upper West Side recently.) It made me pause and give thought as to what the hell it is. But then I remember that the concept of ordinary dry cleaning baffles me and I should worry about other problems like calculus and 12-tone music.

10/02/2006 8:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since there is organic laundry detergent, why not dry cleaning chemicals?

10/02/2006 9:05 PM  
Blogger GreyHair said...

If it's like here (in CA), there is a dry cleaner that uses non-toxic cleaning solutions. It's the real deal, much much better for employee's, the air quality, and the environment.

Go ask them.

10/02/2006 9:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the chemistry side, "organic" is an hugely broad term that includes traditional dry cleaning solvents known to be harmful. So lacking any further info, there's very little we can infer. It could mean anything from using truly benign chemicals to a marketing ploy.

If you really want to know, ask for the trade name of their solvents. From that, you should be able to google a material safety data sheet (MSDS) that lists the ingredients. Then it's off to PubMed to see what the biology lit says.

10/02/2006 10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TCR, I believe there are non-toxic alternatives that are called "oxygen cleaning".
I don't know about that ad, but if you look you can find dry cleaning alternatives that are not toxic to the cleaners.

10/02/2006 11:56 PM  
Anonymous Mike said...

You're all barking up the wrong tree: this appears to be the place to clean your (expensive) organic veggies.

So expensive, you need to eat 'em twice! (But please. Clean them between uses.)

10/03/2006 6:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know about this particular one, or calling it organic, but there are "earth-friendly" dry cleaners appearing all over the place. If you can't find one, ask your current dry cleaner about it, so they know there are people out there that would gladly accept the positive change to help the environment.

Better yet, buy things that don't need dry cleaning :-)

E magazine is pretty good. In fact I believe that is where I originally read about dry cleaning going green.

Never believe a word, ask about the process itself. The thing with "organic" is, it is loosely defined and there are no guarantees. I thought I was doing a "good" thing by buying organic coffee, shade grown coffee, or fair trade coffee, but when I got done talking to a distributor I was really disappointed and definitely need to do more research.

10/03/2006 12:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we have an organic drycleaner in brooklyn too - they use bio-degradable, non-toxic cleaning products only. i'm not sure that makes them "organic," but there you have it.

10/03/2006 1:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are dry cleaners that are using CO2 nowadays -- I don't know that I would characterize that as "organic", but it is certainly safer than traditional solvents.

10/03/2006 6:10 PM  
Anonymous A said...

This article explains it. It seems like 'organic' can mean whatever you want in this case.

10/04/2006 12:10 AM  
Blogger DED said...

True. The word "organic" has been hijacked by marketing mucky-mucks to be synonymous with anything eco-friendly.

Two anonymouses (anonymice?) before Mike, got it right. "Organic" as it pertains to chemistry is carbon chemistry. Basically, any substance that has carbon in it falls under the chemical jurisprudence of "organic chemistry." While that may sound benign, the nastiest of industrial solvents are organic chemicals. And while they may be nasty, they work great.

10/04/2006 2:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a franchise OXXO that has part of their service - to be "earth frindly" though they don't say organic.

10/05/2006 12:37 PM  
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Blogger Logan Lo said...

I live right by them and have been using them for over 10 years (they used to be on Amsterdam and 72).

They actually take the time to get to know you and they also remember you! It's a major reason why I love living on the UWS.

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