Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Nonsense Of Obligation

I've argued before that the Vietnam-era bromide "We need to ensure that the troops who have already died did not do so in vain" is perverse logic by which death is only valid it's followed by more death. Here's how it's playing with the public.

12 Comments:

Blogger Lifetime Fiscal Conservative said...

Saying that more soldiers should die and get wounded so that all of the previous deaths and injuries aren't in vain is the argument made by somebody with nothing left in the bag. Same with slogans like "failure is not an option." The people tossing this kind of tripe desperately want to succeed in Iraq, but they have no plan forward and can't justify staying with any real logic. They just want to win really, really bad. Reality sucks, eh?

12/14/2006 10:38 AM  
Anonymous Jakob said...

In the abstract, I think this argument has some value. But it's in with the 'one last push' line of reasoning.

If you're right, and one more offensive will break the enemy, then there's some truth to the argument that to pull out now is to have wasted the sacrifices of those that have died so far. If you don't actually have a plan for quick victory, though, you're just killing more people.

On past record, I think we're looking at the second variation here.

12/14/2006 3:52 PM  
Anonymous goldhorder said...

I don't think we are going anywhere. At most we will pull back to our heavily fortified bases and let the Iraqis duke it out for power. If we don't like the results...we'll wack the leader and see if someone more favorable come up. A Lebanese company (with American financial ties) is building a huge refinery in Kurdistan. We might not be able to get the Southern oil...but the Northern oil? No, we aren't going anywhere.

12/14/2006 7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jakob
The time for that "reasoning" was THREE YEARS AGO.

12/14/2006 7:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

note to diary...obtain info on lebanese company called 'make oil'...when it was incorporated...who funded it...bla bla bla

12/14/2006 8:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/iraq_oil_industry_1953.jpg

12/14/2006 10:05 PM  
Anonymous goldhorder said...

BEIRUT: Lebanon's Make Oil Company is expected to start building a $3 billion oil refinery in Iraqi Kurdistan within one month, company management told The Daily Star on Tuesday.

The firm expects to sign a contract with the Iraqi Natural Resources Ministry in about three weeks and can start construction immediately in Dhouk, near Irbil, Make Oil general manager Ahmad Kheireddine said.
from the Daily Star....
Construction should last between two and three years, and once completed the refinery will be able to handle 250,000 barrels per day, said Make Oil lead engineer Mahmoud Darwish. The company's investors for the Kurdistan refinery hail from the Gulf, Europe and the United States.

12/15/2006 10:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/12843

12/21/2006 8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WHI20061225&articleId=4262

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=BHA20061225&articleId=4264

12/27/2006 8:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ZAM20070102&articleId=4295

1/02/2007 10:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.thejournalnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070124/BUSINESS01/701240325/1066

1/24/2007 9:08 AM  
Blogger Bert Lord said...

What is your interst with Make Oil? What information do you have? I live in Dohuk Iraq.

3/01/2007 1:30 PM  

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