Wednesday, August 16, 2006

What He Said....

Here. And especially here.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

My very first reaction was political ploy.
My 2nd reaction was "the jury's out".
My 3rd reaction was political ploy.
Then I quit.

8/16/2006 12:39 PM  
Anonymous kilfarsnar said...

This one seemed like the real deal. Now, maybe not so much. I'll wait to see the evidence. But I really don't believe a word that comes out of this administration anymore.

8/16/2006 1:23 PM  
Anonymous wendy said...

These premature arrests were put in motion by a Whitehouse that is so desperate to ratchet up fear and loathing on the heels of Joe Lieberman's loss to Ned Lamont, it has put the whole prosecution of the "plot" in jeopardy.

The Brits were going to keep up with the surveilling, but the US jumped the gun and grabbed the guy in Pakistan, thus forcing M15's hand (and blowing the whole thing open as a result). All to scare people into buying into their "to be against the war is traitorous" meme.

Despite my disgust, I have a shred of hope that the media and voters aren't going to believe the Bush Administration AT ALL anymore and will realize that we are NOT safer with BushCo in charge.

8/16/2006 2:13 PM  
Anonymous nyhmr said...

What amazes me is that Sullivan was a staunch defender of Shrub and company on "Real Time with Bill Maher". It was a toal lovefest.

8/16/2006 2:21 PM  
Anonymous wendy said...

I saw that episode, however, I wouldn't say Sullivan's comments were a "staunch" defense of the Administration. In fact, I think he was pretty critical, just not as critical as the other Bush-hating guests.

8/16/2006 2:28 PM  
Anonymous nyhmr said...

He has been on more than once and at first Shrub could do nothing wrong.

8/16/2006 4:44 PM  
Anonymous wendy said...

well, hopefully he isn't alone in coming to his senses!

8/16/2006 6:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm waiting for more details on the latest "terror!!! in the skies!!!" dramedy -- which so far seems to involve multinational panic & fighter jets scrambling to take down a transAtlantic flight because a middle-aged lady with a tube of contraband hand cream was insufficiently respectful to the paranoid pants-pishers around her. If this turns out to have been A Serious Terror Plot, I will have been exposed as a moonbat scoffer. But, according to the evening news, the bomb-sniffing dogs & the semtex-sniffing drones at Logan Airport couldn't find anything more dangerous than a lot of sweaty, dehydrated passengers with chapped skin and overactive imaginations. Boy, am I glad I don't *have* to do any flying until the sheeple among us get distracted by the next shiny object, I mean terror alert... -- Anne Laurie

8/16/2006 9:39 PM  
Blogger 277fia said...

I didn't know anyone still read Andrew Sullivan.

8/17/2006 1:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And, Bush is crap, says Prescott

Or, MSNBC Anchor Joe Scarborough Opens Show Asking "Is Bush An Idiot?"...

We live in the worse of times in the sense, yes there are groups and individuals in the world (rememeber Timothy McVeigh, Bin Laden) that want to do harm, but we completely can not trust this administration based on their arrogance, secrecy, words, and more importantly their actions. The historical trend is right there in our faces and it ain't pretty. They don't care about truth or reality, they care about ideology, money and power.

Mehlman on "Meet the Press" basically admitted Iraq was for oil.. "Imagine a failed state on the second largest oil reserves in the world."

Jon Steward showed the changing propaganda of the admin. Of course they claim they never said "stay the course", and their PR is "adapt and win" now.

If these guys weren't destroying our way of life, our country, it would almost be comical.

8/17/2006 10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Friedman, the man that said, "we got here the wrong way, but it is the right thing to do", finally gets it regarding "5 deferment"- Cheny:

Tom Friedman: "... Well, I just have one question for Mr. Cheney: If we’re in such a titanic struggle with radical Islam, and if getting Iraq right is at the center of that struggle, why did you 'tough guys' fight the Iraq war with .... just enough troops to lose? .... Please, Mr. Cheney, spare us your flag-waving rhetoric about the titanic struggle we are in and how Democrats just don’t understand it. It is just so phony — such a patent ploy to divert Americans from the fact that you have never risen to the challenge of this war. ....

8/17/2006 12:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes it isn't the what but the how.

From smart men:

"The final word on Iraq

The most poignant part of the discussion came when a young Navy commander asked the panel to comment on best-case scenarios for the situation in Iraq.

Walt offered his suggestion that the "least bad option" to remedy the "huge strategic blunder" would be to remove the troops as quickly as possible while keeping Iraq "territorially intact - we don't want other countries picking at the carcass."

But it was Mearsheimer's answer that brought the last word.

He said he personally did not "know how to define success" in Iraq. In any scenario, he said, it was going to be an "extremely hard slog." If the United States stayed on long enough for a government to really take root in Iraq, he forecast, it would only inflame the current insurgency.

Mearsheimer then spoke about his time at West Point in the late 1960s. An English professor had assigned his class to read French existentialist Albert Camus' "The Plague." The instructor explained that he was using the book as an allegory for what was happening in Vietnam: the plague came and went of its own accord - and humans "operated under the illusion that they could affect the plague one way or another." Mearsheimer said he saw a similar dynamic afoot in Iraq. "

8/17/2006 1:15 PM  
Blogger copy editor said...

We're going to stay in Iraq until that country is a stable, defensible, free nation and an ally in the war on terror. That's what POTUS repeatedly says.

"Buy the ticket... take the ride."

8/17/2006 1:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they found a bag in the forest on the london show was on the bbc...the evidence is 'building'

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