Tuesday, December 06, 2005

It's The, Ummm, Media's Fault

"To be responsible, one needs to stop defining success in Iraq as the absence of terrorist attacks."

-Donald Rumsfeld, 12/5/05, at Johns Hopkins University's Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies, criticizing the media for its coverage of the war.

"To all who wear the uniform, I make you this pledge: America will not run in the face of car bombers and assassins so long as I am your Commander-in-Chief."

-George W. Bush, 11/30/05, explaining our "National Strategy For Victory In Iraq."


Blogger copy editor said...

I would absolutely love to see some measures of success defined (goal posts) and an anticipated schedule (though flexible, we can call it a time table) if they'd be so helpful.

In the mean time, I will continue to gauge our success on 1. insurgents captured 2. productive political discussions between factions (guns and knives do not count, Sadr!) 3. absence of U.S. military losses 4. absence of insurgent strikes...

12/06/2005 10:23 PM  
Anonymous wtf said...

How do you measure absence of US military losses? Do you mean a reduction in the death and injury rates? Also, I'm concerned an insurgency kill or capture rate might be misleading. We could be capturing more because we're creating more. If the capture rate increases by, for example, 20% it might seems like progress, but not if the base of insurgents is increasing by 50%. (The base number is, I imagine, unknowable.)

I think the Iraqi opinion of the US presence should be a metric. As should the Iraqi civilian death rate. (Down is good.) The Iraqi population is 1/13th that of the US. I have to think the frequent deaths of 30 or 40 civilians on a single day--the equivalent in the US would be 400 to 500 people--have to weigh heavily on Iraqi opinion of the US presence.

12/06/2005 11:01 PM  
Blogger Innes said...

It's my fault. I didn't drink the Kool-Aid.

12/07/2005 12:14 AM  
Blogger Mark Jones said...

As I've said before, it would be hilarious listening (reading) to Donald Rumself talk about Iraq, until you consider the tens of thousands of U.S. service members killed and maimed, and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed/injured. Is it just me, or does “To be responsible, one needs to stop defining success in Iraq as the absence of terrorist attacks", sound eerily similar to "We had to destroy the village, in order to save it".

12/07/2005 7:30 AM  
Blogger Gothamimage said...

You know where you are in the cycle, when they start blaming the media - This is the Agnew moment.

CR - Look at the "metrics 1965" chart we posted on our blog - you will feel the shocked of recognition.

12/08/2005 12:14 PM  
Blogger Gothamimage said...

Make that "shock."

MJ - Is correct - Rumsfeld is a piece of work - worse than any French deconstructionist - He makes Clinton's stringy speeches look adamentine, by comparison.

Also - note the Rummy technique - shared by his partisans, of trying to 'pre-emptively' bracket off what is and what is not acceptable to say.

A number of Senators did this too when they began the Justic Roberts hearings.

Rumsfeld's words are WORSE than "we had to destroy a village, in order to save it." At least that gruesome statement had a certain paradoxical Hobbesian logic to it.

The Marquis de Rumsfeld's words subvert common meaning and understanding - he speaks like a University leftist trying to kick out the pillars of agreed upon meaning, so as to subvert the very concept of Truth.

12/08/2005 12:21 PM  
Anonymous howard said...

actually, the first "stategy for victory" speech did define victory, as follows (my paraphrase):

1. the baathists don't disrupt iraqi democracy;

2. iraqi forces can defend the country on their own;

3. iraq isn't used as a terrorist base for planning attacks elsewhere.

These are, of course, unreachable, but they are what bush calls "victory," and unless i'm losing my mind, both 1 and 3 speak directly to the level of terrorist activity in iraq.

not that one expects bush to direct a coordinated government at this point....

12/09/2005 1:15 PM  
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